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	<title>Comments on: Google Earth for Mac:  Big Disappointment</title>
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		<title>By: Matt McIrvin</title>
		<link>http://www.friday.com/bbum/2006/01/11/google-earth-for-mac-big-disappointment/comment-page-1/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt McIrvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that really needs to be hidden is the navigation bar at the bottom.  But when you start up with that hidden, the compass goes away.

The problem with hiding the sidebar is that I&#039;d really like the search window to still be visible.  But it&#039;s all or nothing: lose the search window, lose the sidebar.

My impression from playing with the Windows version is that many of the UI faults of the Mac version are also in there (though there are some platform-specific bugs too).  I think most of the big problems are inherited from Keyhole.

Maybe I ought to start posting on that board...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that really needs to be hidden is the navigation bar at the bottom.  But when you start up with that hidden, the compass goes away.</p>
<p>The problem with hiding the sidebar is that I&#8217;d really like the search window to still be visible.  But it&#8217;s all or nothing: lose the search window, lose the sidebar.</p>
<p>My impression from playing with the Windows version is that many of the UI faults of the Mac version are also in there (though there are some platform-specific bugs too).  I think most of the big problems are inherited from Keyhole.</p>
<p>Maybe I ought to start posting on that board&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Sidious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Sidious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, on a 30&quot; display, it doesn&#039;t look bad. Part of the bad experience I&#039;m facing are:

- best quality preferences are slow even on a PowerMac G5 Quad + 7800 GT.

- poor zooming experience due to the crappy Apple Mighty Mouse scroll button and non intuitive zooming feedback.

- only the centered rectangle is properly anti-aliased.

- the UI is OK for a windows port but the it doesn&#039;t feel native at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, on a 30&#8243; display, it doesn&#8217;t look bad. Part of the bad experience I&#8217;m facing are:</p>
<p>- best quality preferences are slow even on a PowerMac G5 Quad + 7800 GT.</p>
<p>- poor zooming experience due to the crappy Apple Mighty Mouse scroll button and non intuitive zooming feedback.</p>
<p>- only the centered rectangle is properly anti-aliased.</p>
<p>- the UI is OK for a windows port but the it doesn&#8217;t feel native at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.friday.com/bbum/2006/01/11/google-earth-for-mac-big-disappointment/comment-page-1/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words about my blog in your update.  By the way, I highly recommend you give your feedback directly to the Google Earth team by going to the new Mac OSX Support Forum for GE at:

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/SupportGEMac

The actual developers read and respond in that forum.  They also will want to hear about your problems with responsiveness (and may be able to help you figure it out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words about my blog in your update.  By the way, I highly recommend you give your feedback directly to the Google Earth team by going to the new Mac OSX Support Forum for GE at:</p>
<p><a href="http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/SupportGEMac" >http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/SupportGEMac</a></p>
<p>The actual developers read and respond in that forum.  They also will want to hear about your problems with responsiveness (and may be able to help you figure it out).</p>
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		<title>By: WAHa.06x36</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAHa.06x36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quartz Composer is nowhere near ready for a task like that. It can make cute little toys, but without even the most basic control over polygons, and only interpreted code, it couldn&#039;t do anything remotely resembling Google Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quartz Composer is nowhere near ready for a task like that. It can make cute little toys, but without even the most basic control over polygons, and only interpreted code, it couldn&#8217;t do anything remotely resembling Google Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: devin chalmers</title>
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		<dc:creator>devin chalmers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I much prefer NASA WorldWind&#039;s interface. It&#039;s cleaner, and they handle the mouse much better. (Why does scrolling down zoom in in Google Earth? I am never going to get used to that...) Unfortunately, WorldWind is perpetually about-to-begin-the-planning-process-to-examine-the-possibility-of-a-non-windows-port-at-some-point-in-the-not-immediate-future, so Google Earth is all we got so far.

Myself, I hide every single one of those fugly Google Earth panes--it&#039;s all about the Earth, baby. As long as you have a 3-button mouse it&#039;s gravy. Scroll (or right-click-drag--garn blasted redundancy!) to zoom (though, again, upside-down...), left-click-drag to move, middle-click-drag to tilt and rotate--much better than the UI controls. The preferences UI is still a shambles, though, and for a company that values such great, minimalistic interfaces on the Web, the sidebars are uuuugly and crowded and useless. I suspect much of the problem is that they inherited the UI from that horrible old Keyhole program. It&#039;ll get better--I hope. (Hey, wonder if I can score a Summer of Code internship writing a decent Mac UI...)

Now what someone really needs to do is write a zero lines-of-code WorldWind/Google Earth clone in Quartz Composer. Would that be hot, or would that be hot? I don&#039;t imagine it would be too difficult, except for the terrain bumpmapping. Downloading and displaying textures from the internet based on mousewheel and dragging input sounds right up QC&#039;s alley, though. Anyone want to take it on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I much prefer NASA WorldWind&#8217;s interface. It&#8217;s cleaner, and they handle the mouse much better. (Why does scrolling down zoom in in Google Earth? I am never going to get used to that&#8230;) Unfortunately, WorldWind is perpetually about-to-begin-the-planning-process-to-examine-the-possibility-of-a-non-windows-port-at-some-point-in-the-not-immediate-future, so Google Earth is all we got so far.</p>
<p>Myself, I hide every single one of those fugly Google Earth panes&#8211;it&#8217;s all about the Earth, baby. As long as you have a 3-button mouse it&#8217;s gravy. Scroll (or right-click-drag&#8211;garn blasted redundancy!) to zoom (though, again, upside-down&#8230;), left-click-drag to move, middle-click-drag to tilt and rotate&#8211;much better than the UI controls. The preferences UI is still a shambles, though, and for a company that values such great, minimalistic interfaces on the Web, the sidebars are uuuugly and crowded and useless. I suspect much of the problem is that they inherited the UI from that horrible old Keyhole program. It&#8217;ll get better&#8211;I hope. (Hey, wonder if I can score a Summer of Code internship writing a decent Mac UI&#8230;)</p>
<p>Now what someone really needs to do is write a zero lines-of-code WorldWind/Google Earth clone in Quartz Composer. Would that be hot, or would that be hot? I don&#8217;t imagine it would be too difficult, except for the terrain bumpmapping. Downloading and displaying textures from the internet based on mousewheel and dragging input sounds right up QC&#8217;s alley, though. Anyone want to take it on?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an experienced GE user from the Windows side, let me point out some features to help you guys out.  Try toggling on/off the parts of the UI you don&#039;t like either using the &quot;Tools&quot; menu or the keyboard shortcuts.  This way you can focus on the part of the UI you like best.  For example, to turn off the admittedly wasteful navigation panel, choose the first option in the &quot;Tools&quot; menu.  Or hit Control-1 (assuming it is the same key on the Mac).

Unfortunately, the current beta of the Mac doesn&#039;t support the Full-screen mode which quickly removes the UI elements and lets you just browse the world.  They will release that in an update soon I&#039;m sure, along with support for OS X 10.3.9 and hopefully the Universal Binary to run on the new Intel Macs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an experienced GE user from the Windows side, let me point out some features to help you guys out.  Try toggling on/off the parts of the UI you don&#8217;t like either using the &#8220;Tools&#8221; menu or the keyboard shortcuts.  This way you can focus on the part of the UI you like best.  For example, to turn off the admittedly wasteful navigation panel, choose the first option in the &#8220;Tools&#8221; menu.  Or hit Control-1 (assuming it is the same key on the Mac).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the current beta of the Mac doesn&#8217;t support the Full-screen mode which quickly removes the UI elements and lets you just browse the world.  They will release that in an update soon I&#8217;m sure, along with support for OS X 10.3.9 and hopefully the Universal Binary to run on the new Intel Macs.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not too bad on a 30&quot; cinema display - adds a new dimension to the term &quot;emersive 3D environment.&quot; But I have to agree it is very un-mac-like</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not too bad on a 30&#8243; cinema display &#8211; adds a new dimension to the term &#8220;emersive 3D environment.&#8221; But I have to agree it is very un-mac-like</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Qt/Mac. I kinda complained about this at http://www.stuffonfire.com/2005/12/google_earth_using_qt_1.html a while back when the leaked version was, well, leaked.

They were demoing Earth at MWSF yesterday, and a friend said that he could understand why Google would look to leverage a cross-platform UI toolkit. I said to him, &quot;Do you really thinkg &lt;b&gt;Google&lt;/b&gt; doesn&#039;t have the resources to hire talented engineers to develop a great looking UI for each and every platform?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Qt/Mac. I kinda complained about this at <a href="http://www.stuffonfire.com/2005/12/google_earth_using_qt_1.html" >http://www.stuffonfire.com/2005/12/google_earth_using_qt_1.html</a> a while back when the leaked version was, well, leaked.</p>
<p>They were demoing Earth at MWSF yesterday, and a friend said that he could understand why Google would look to leverage a cross-platform UI toolkit. I said to him, &#8220;Do you really thinkg <b>Google</b> doesn&#8217;t have the resources to hire talented engineers to develop a great looking UI for each and every platform?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tsai - Blog - Google Earth for Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Tsai - Blog - Google Earth for Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John C. Randolph</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C. Randolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should make a deal with Software MacKiev to write their Mac client.  MacKiev already has a far better-looking globe to start from.

-jcr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should make a deal with Software MacKiev to write their Mac client.  MacKiev already has a far better-looking globe to start from.</p>
<p>-jcr</p>
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